I feel like ripping someone's intelligence or beliefs to shreds. Jokes, i'll be nice
over 9 years ago
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No..
over 9 years ago
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I CHOOSE ABORTION
over 9 years ago
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Ok so I against abortion and even if you can't take care of the kid you should put them up for adoption
over 9 years ago
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@♡QuoteGirl♡ then dont comment! 😱 if u don't have anything to contribute, i don't give a shit!!😄
over 9 years ago
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@Marisa 😝 im pro abortion but i think a man should have more of a say in the matter
over 9 years ago
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Ok I like you a lil more now
over 9 years ago
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you see I would, but I think we've discussed all of those things already and mostly agreed lol
over 9 years ago
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@🎩Llew🎩 i choose abortion
over 9 years ago
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pro or against?
over 9 years ago
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against
over 9 years ago
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Ok, explain
over 9 years ago
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im pro just saying. I believe that if the baby could effect the health of the mother, she should be allowed to choose
over 9 years ago
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and i think men should get more of a say for example, if the mother is in no risk of health issues and just doesn't want a child and the father does, i don't think she should be allowed to abort
over 9 years ago
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@🎩Llew🎩 well I think the women shouldn't abort because
the baby is a human being
over 9 years ago
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Not really, the fetus is a clump of cells that has the potential of being a human being. It's not like it really has a life anyways. No one would be negatively affected without it and it doesn't have a perspective on life or friends or feelings or knowledge or memories, it's kinda just...there...as awful as that sounds
over 9 years ago
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for the first three weeks there is no heartbeat therefore u could argue that its not living
over 9 years ago
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it's not really living until it has brainwaves imo
over 9 years ago
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anyone else want to contribute here?
over 9 years ago
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@🎩Llew🎩 Did you know that if you get your head cut clean off you can still think for 15 seconds afterwards? Isn't that insane?!
over 9 years ago
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@👑MirandaKnowsWhat'sUp👑 that's why during the French Revolution, they would pick up the heads after they'd been chopped off and showed them to the crowd
over 9 years ago
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i suppose that makes sense, there would still be oxygen in ur brain so it could still function for a bit
over 9 years ago
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That's weird and kind of scary
over 9 years ago
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I love how this went from abortion to cutting heads of 😋
over 9 years ago
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*off
over 9 years ago
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Lol ikr
over 9 years ago
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@🎩Llew🎩 Yea, that's what I was thinking. Maybe one day people will find a way of extending those 15 seconds (which is pretty damn long if you think about it) and there'll be conscious heads in jars like in Futurama ^.^
over 9 years ago
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@👑MirandaKnowsWhat'sUp👑 That would be terrifying
over 9 years ago
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That would be really scary
over 9 years ago
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What the hell this is just going on for ages don't u people have other things to do that talk about getting heads chopped off
over 9 years ago
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Carnt u people debate about something else like religion or something
over 9 years ago
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In this I will beat u
over 9 years ago
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that depends, are u an atheist or a religious person?
over 9 years ago
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if u are an atheist then there is no argument here. If u are religious im sure i could give u a run for your money
over 9 years ago
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@shining glitter I thought it was interesting! XD but yea, I'll debate something with you. Pick a topic and a side and I'll see if have a counterargument.
over 9 years ago
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i feel like debating w/ someone
over 9 years ago
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@Live.King.Ka$h Well you gotta initiate the debate then buddy. Start talkin' bout stuff
over 9 years ago
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@👑MirandaKnowsWhat'sUp👑 i don't have any topics to debate about
over 9 years ago
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best rapper
over 9 years ago
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Eminem or Tupac
over 9 years ago
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eminem
over 9 years ago
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Lil B
over 9 years ago
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@Ethan fuck outta here Lil B is wack as fuck
over 9 years ago
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🎶Hopped up in my car, then I drop my roof, wet like wonton soup, that's just how I do
Then I park my car, then I fuck your bitch, Eat that wonton soup, wet like wonton soup🎶
over 9 years ago
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@Ethan yo dats hip hop 101
over 9 years ago
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lol
over 9 years ago
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@Ethan I know unmainstream rappers who are better than Lil B
over 9 years ago
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for real though, I'd have to go with eminem
over 9 years ago
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@Ethan No doubts Eminem is the greatest rapper of all time
over 9 years ago
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best superhero/vigilante
over 9 years ago
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batman
over 9 years ago
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ok no debate there
over 9 years ago
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most serious topic religion
over 9 years ago
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Best rapper of all time is definately Tupac.
over 9 years ago
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And maybe Eminem
over 9 years ago
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men vs. women. Who has it better in our society?
I think women have it better in our society and men are discriminated against
over 9 years ago
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@🎩Llew🎩 I think it's equal. Both are discriminated so it's kinda the same for both.
over 9 years ago
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@❤Josie❤ ur comment is too long but wont load
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@noe Agreed. Everyone is oppressed or discriminated against in some way and it's about equal for men and women (in developed countries at least, in the middle east it's different)
over 9 years ago
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i still say women are favouritised over men nowadays
over 9 years ago
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yeah it fairer but i still think women have it better in our society than men
over 9 years ago
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Do Aliens exist? I love Aliens & UFO stuff😁
over 9 years ago
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Vampires are real
over 9 years ago
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@🎩Llew🎩 why do you think women have it better than men?
over 9 years ago
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because of the discrimination against men. Men are percieved as guilty until proven innocent. Men can't get raped. Men get longer sentences for the same crime as women etc etc
over 9 years ago
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i could go on but i wont bore you
over 9 years ago
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@🎩Llew🎩 but them you gotta say again that in India, no woman can go outside without being accompanied by a man, because the amount of woman getting raped is enormously high.
over 9 years ago
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Plus, in Tunisia for example, women don't even get served at a restaurant if there are no men with them.
over 9 years ago
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thats why i said women have it better in our society. In third world countries u guys are fucked. But here u guys have it better
over 9 years ago
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@🎩Llew🎩 yeah but if we talk about the whole world, we can conclude that it's pretty much equal, as in third world countries, women have it worse and in our society it might be the men who have it worse.
over 9 years ago
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Even though I think that the discrimination in third world countries are way more significant and way more life threatening than the discrimination of men here.
over 9 years ago
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yes but that wasnt the point i was making. I was saying here, in our society, women hae it better
over 9 years ago
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if we talk about the whole world women have it worse because in first world countries it's about equal and in third world countries women are fucked
over 9 years ago
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here, it's such a slim difference that it could be argued either way of who has it worse
over 9 years ago
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Why did I even bother writing...😒
over 9 years ago
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comment
over 9 years ago
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@PrincessTingTong(Sak) Aliens are great and all, but Vampires are more likely to be real
over 9 years ago
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GOD IS REAL I WILL PRAY FOR U
about 9 years ago
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i ok thanks
about 9 years ago
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Men and women should all be considered equal and although I'm not religious, all religions should be tolerated because faith is not something that should be taken away from someone. I do agree with abortion however as it is the woman's choice to make, not society's. I don't believe anyone should be discriminated against, nor should their freedom to believe and do what they want (to an extent) be taken away from them. This society needs to learn tolerance.
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ah you see, i am also pro abortion but the whole its the womans choice thing has me torn. I know its the womans body and what not but say she doesnt want a child but the dad does, he misses out on 50 years maybe with a child because the mother doesnt want to carry him for 9 months
almost 9 years ago
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if it were the other way around, if the woman wanted to keep the child but the dad didnt, fuck him she gets to keep it
almost 9 years ago
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so im just thinking, if we want equality, if the woman has the right to abort a child at her own choice, then, in theory, the father should also be able to choose to abort the child regardless of what the mother may feel
almost 9 years ago
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that, hypothetically, would be the only way to achieve equality otherwise the rights or power over a child will forever be in favour of the mother which just isnt right
almost 9 years ago
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You assume the woman would take only her feelings into consideration when I feel most women would consult the father. I agree society views the mother as the primary caregiver rather than the father due to gender roles (obviously not good) however you can't ignore the statistics of the ever increasing single parent (90% of the time the mother) thus raising a child is becoming ever more frightening, costly and far more responsibility. You also have the cases of sexual assault which would make it much harder for the woman to raise the child, in marital rape as well. Abortion isn't a matter of equality, it's a matter of a woman's well being so I therefore think it should be an exception to the argument for equality.
almost 9 years ago
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Too long sorry it wont load, could you shorten it please?
almost 9 years ago
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Abortion is a matter of a woman's well being rather than equality
almost 9 years ago
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but a woman can abort just if she doesnt want a child, nothing to do with her health, regardless of the fathers opinion
almost 9 years ago
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if its a risk to a womans health i think that abortion is the correct course of action. The health of the mother should always come first
almost 9 years ago
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Why do you assume the woman wouldn't consult the father?
almost 9 years ago
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im not saying they wouldn't im just saying they dont have to. They can do it without consent of the father because they have that ability and they also have the power to keep the child regardless of what the father wants therefore preventing men and women from achieving complete equality
almost 9 years ago
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@🎩Llew🎩 too long
almost 9 years ago
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shit sorry
almost 9 years ago
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basically, im not saying they wouldn't im just saying they have the right to abort without consultation. This isnt equality is my point
almost 9 years ago
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however im not necessarily saying it should be changed because that would be giving the father control of the females body which isnt right
almost 9 years ago
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I truly believe the father has a right to have a say in it however, it will be the woman that has to go through the pregnancy and thus she would have to truly want the child, I don't see it as logical to go through so much pain to receive no reward
almost 9 years ago
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yea which is why i said at the start that i was torn
almost 9 years ago
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However that point is really dependent on the relationship between the mother and father
almost 9 years ago
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yes but my point was the only way it can be equal between mother and father is if the father has the right to abort the child regardless of what the mother wants which isnt right
almost 9 years ago
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Well looks at it this way, single parent households are greatly increasing, 90% headed by the mother. Let's assume most fathers are given an opportunity to be part of the child's life, yet it appears to be the woman accepting the most responsibility.
almost 9 years ago
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So maybe it's a matter of men and women unconsciously conforming to society's gender roles, therefore the inequality in abortion could be due to society's inequality. Maybe if gender roles were not so accepted, there would be more room for compromise between father and mother, despite the circumstances (to an extent) in decisions to do with abortion.
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(Think that's too long) So maybe it's a matter of men and women unconsciously conforming to society's gender roles, therefore the inequality in abortion could be due to society's inequality.
almost 9 years ago
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Maybe if gender roles were not so accepted, there would be more room for compromise between father and mother, despite the circumstances, to an extent, in decisions to do with abortion
almost 9 years ago
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my point was simply to do with abortion, if you extend it to the whole of society its a whole new ball game
almost 9 years ago
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I think it's a very deep rooted issue that everyone will just have to agree to disagree on. But abortion should be legal so that people have the choice
almost 9 years ago
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I think we share the same core ideas
almost 9 years ago
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Agreed
almost 9 years ago
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