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Why did God create the devil if he knew the devil would turn on him and cause evil and pain?

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Asked almost 10 years ago by userpic 👑MirandaKnowsWhat'sUp👑
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4907 7 423990691 profile 754682 0
I meant to put there cannot be good without evil,I believe in god and I believe that the devil is real.I don't want to go to hell when the End Times come.
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5707 3 profile 477722
Why can't there be good without evil? Why can't there just be heaven? Surely an all-powerful being who created all existence would've been capable of making heaven and that's it- no hell, no earth, no suffering.
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5228 20 451774293 profile 642163 0
actually i think its that the devil was an angel of god who turned against him amd was defeated by the Archangel Michael in the war of heaven and he was cast to hell along the other fallen angels aka demons
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5228 20 451774293 profile 642163 0
ancient judaism believes that evil isnt something to counter good but is simply absence of good
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5707 3 profile 477722
Yea, that's kinda what I'm saying. The devil was an angel of God, which God created because he created everything. And since he's omniscient, he knew the angel would turn on him. So why'd he make the angel in the first place? And the supposedly devil is what tempts people to do evil, so why'd God let the devil have a presence on Earth instead of only in hell?
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5228 20 451774293 profile 642163 0
ancient judaism suggests possibly satan or "Ha-satan" was tasked by God to tempt others to see if they would be worthy of heaven
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5228 20 451774293 profile 642163 0
"Ha-satan" translates to the prosecutor
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5707 3 profile 477722
Yea, that kinda makes sense But why not only create nice people that you know are worthy, and put them in a heaven. Why make people at all? Are we just a higher being's entertainment? What is life?! XDD
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5228 20 451774293 profile 642163 0
wow... This is not what i signed up for!! I was just trying to impart knowledge. I suppose god isnt that all-powerful after all
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5228 20 451774293 profile 642163 0
or if he created us after his own image, he probably is capable of choosing evil and he wants to give that choice to us to give us free will
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5228 20 451774293 profile 642163 0
to comsider i dont believe anything im saying, it sounds pretty impressive
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5707 3 profile 477722
Hahaha sorry After his own image? Then wouldn't they all be perfect? And why give people free will if it leads to nothing good? Fucking religion, man. It doesn't make sense. But it makes sense for it to not make sense to people because a god would be at a much higher level of thinking than us... Trippy stuff
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5228 20 451774293 profile 642163 0
i find it ridiculous when people find it more reasonable than evolution
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5779 22 499388068 profile 690603 0
yeah, I was told that the devil used to be an angel
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5707 3 profile 477722
@Llew Yea, there's actual evidence for evolution and nothing but an unreliable book for creationism... But the idea of a god in general isn't too crazy
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5228 20 451774293 profile 642163 0
i suppose not its just the way they think god pointed a finger to create stuff
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5707 3 profile 477722
Yea... Well I guess an all-powerful god would be able to do that, but it doesn't match up with science too well
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4892 17 422733120 profile 541669 0
I'm atheist 😳
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5707 3 profile 477722
@Stillthatbritishpanda🐼 fair enough
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4907 7 423990691 profile 754682 0
@Llew,yes.The devil was an angel of God but the devil wanted to be as powerful as God.Maybe even more.So (as I've heard) God made the devil make himself evil so that he could be as powerful,a little less though.But the devil wanted to be more powerful than God.So yah.
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5228 20 451774293 profile 642163 0
some culutres dont believe satan is evil that he is acting in gods orders
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5228 20 451774293 profile 642163 0
*cultures
over 9 years ago
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5707 3 profile 477722
There are cultures that think a being that brings despair is good? Da fuq? XD
over 9 years ago
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5228 20 451774293 profile 642163 0
no as in god told satan to tempt people to see if they were worthy of heaven
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5707 3 profile 477722
Oh. Yea, I've heard people say that before, but I don't get it. Why not just make people that you know are worthy of heaven and put 'em there? Then you don't have to worry about hell or earth, and then nobody suffers.
over 9 years ago
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5228 20 451774293 profile 642163 0
Cause god is a dick basically
over 9 years ago
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5707 3 profile 477722
haha yep. That's one question I've asked that no one has yet to answer in a religious, philosophical way... Which is kinda disappointing
over 9 years ago
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5228 20 451774293 profile 642163 0
because there is no explanation
over 9 years ago
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5707 3 profile 477722
Well that sucks. I don't wanna think that the only two possibilities are nothingness and pointlessness, or a dick God messin' with us like we're Sims
over 9 years ago
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5779 22 499388068 profile 690603 0
you two should date
over 9 years ago
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5228 20 451774293 profile 642163 0
except we live in different continents and know basically nothing about each other👍👍
over 9 years ago
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5707 3 profile 477722
@Ethan You and HCK should date
over 9 years ago
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5779 22 499388068 profile 690603 0
@👑MirandaKnowsWhat'sUp👑 good idea! I ask him out
over 9 years ago
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5707 3 profile 477722
@Ethan Alright, cool. I better be the bridesmaid at the wedding since I set you guys up 😏
over 9 years ago
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5707 3 profile 477722
so Uhhh.... Gods a dick 👍
over 9 years ago
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5228 20 451774293 profile 642163 0
basically 👌👌
over 9 years ago
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4947 3 427432398 profile 751066 0
Hi
over 9 years ago
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5228 20 451774293 profile 642163 0
sup
over 9 years ago
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5707 3 profile 477722
@maddy hello
over 9 years ago
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5316 16 459362018 profile 844752 0
If there was all good, we wouldn't know that it was good and wouldn't appreciate it. We wouldn't have earned it by overcoming the evil.
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5707 3 profile 477722
@Sarah true...but some people are just battered down by the evil and can't see the good :/ plus not everyone has an equal struggle, so life is just completely unfair because of this...
over 9 years ago
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5316 16 459362018 profile 844752 0
@👑MirandaKnowsWhat'sUp👑 yeah. That's very true. I guess it all depends on people's beliefs and everything. I mean, we don't know if God created the Devil or if they're real. We just hopes what we're gonna believe I guess.
over 9 years ago
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5316 16 459362018 profile 844752 0
oops. I mean we just believe what we're gonna believe.
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5228 20 451774293 profile 642163 0
cause god is a dick
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5707 3 profile 477722
@🎩Llew🎩 Exactly! There's literally no reason why he didn't just create some nice people and put them in heaven and have em all be happy. Instead he made a variety of people ranging from saints to assholes and murderers, plopped us on this planet and watched us run around like a sick game of Sims
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5228 20 451774293 profile 642163 0
Which why it isnt logical to think there exists a kind higher being who you think actually gives a shit about us
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5707 3 profile 477722
@🎩Llew🎩 Yep. Agreed.
over 9 years ago
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5228 20 451774293 profile 642163 0
i really want some angry religious person to comment so i can have a proper debate with them 😡😡
over 9 years ago
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5707 3 profile 477722
me too >:l There hasn't been a good debate in /ages/
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5228 20 451774293 profile 642163 0
i keep looking for questions on good topics but i comment but no one ever replies
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