also white people can care about black lives too; that's a thing for people who aren't racist pieces of trash so I don't know why you're acting like caring about it is bad? And he's still part black so even if there was logic behind the white part it still doesn't make sense overall?
Muhammad Ali. Tommie Smith. John Carlos. All of them were vilified by white america for speaking out about social injustice and are now held in high esteem by the same people. I'm not saying that Kaepernick will have the lasting impact as these men have had, but eventually this will all blow over and the blind conservative white people will have to conform to the new norms of our society.
He has a right not to stand. It's like the right to free speech but inverse no one can force you to do that it's ridiculous. And he had a reason too- a good reason. I know someone who didn't say the pledge in school because it says "under God", which she doesn't believe in, and she isn't overly fond of America, and honestly I agree. Does she deserve to be shamed and jobless and shit? No.
People should leave him alone there are way worse famous people than that guy like c'mon
@🐫👑MirandaIsAware👑🐫 that's a good point but he should be respecting the country. He is being paid millions of dollars the least he can to is stand to honor the country and it is disrespectful to the people who have served this country. Idk if you see my point of view but just because he has the right to not stand I don't think it is right.
@🌸Miss_Mandi_Mae🌸 yea he's being paid millions of dollars for his hard work ,dedication, and talent, he just so happens to live in this country. It's not like it's the country or our tax dollars paying him.
If all rich people should honor their country as your logic states, then government officials in North Korea should honor their country because they're the wealthiest ones there
@🌸Miss_Mandi_Mae🌸 And it's irrelevant to the people in the military. He's not making a statement about them, and some of them even support him as Ethan said. He is upset because innocent people keep dying at the hands of state police forces, and congress hasn't done anything about it.
He's upset because the system/the government/the country is failing to resolve this issue. He won't show support for the country that doesn't support black people. Sounds fair enough to me
@🐫👑MirandaIsAware👑🐫 it is relevant to the military because they fight for our country, for his freedom and we see standing as a sign of respect. They fought for our country and the least he can do is respect their sacrifice and stand because we as a country should take the flag as a symbol of our county and show decency and reverence in its presence. Same goes for burning the flag if its dropped, etc. Its respect
@🐫👑MirandaIsAware👑🐫 and he is being paid millions of dollars to play, and I know he has the right but it would be better to make a point in some other form, not disrespecting the flag. It has been taught to me and many other young people that we respect the country and the people who fight for it. For example I was taught that even if you didn't say the pledge of allegiance you still stood. It's just respect. The 49ers aren't good anyway so it's not like he isn't replaceable. So making a topic that is so controversial probably isn't good for his career
@🌸Miss_Mandi_Mae🌸 We are taught to respect and fight for our country as propaganda to get people to join the military. It's been a thing for decades and isn't something I'm for. It is okay to be unhappy with America.
And just because he doesn't support this country, doesn't mean he doesn't support people who are willing to die for what they believe in; it's different. Of course you shouldn't just go around doing bad shit just because you have the right to, but here he isn't doing anything bad. He's making a statement about a terrible thing happening in America, getting this issue a lot of attention, and even risking his career and accepting this hatred towards him to do so because he believes in it so strongly.
And I know he's getting paid a shitton and is rich af; I'm not saying he isn't, I'm saying it's irrelevant.
@🐫👑MirandaIsAware👑🐫 just because you don't agree with my statement doesn't mean it's a bad argument. We both have different opinions and you seem opposed to accepting that and you can't prove a situation true or false if it is solely a matter of opinion.
Didn't some baseball player assault a 70 year old? Why does no one talk about that? Instead everyone's harassing this dude who just wants black peoples to be able to live without fearing for their lives like cmon
@🐫👑MirandaIsAware👑🐫 police fear for their lives too. I can promise you they are constantly watching their backs because they never know what's coming their way. There have been shootings because someone was motivated by their movement. There have been many violent riots. This is what America is coming to. I think this is greater and means more to a larger group that's why it's so popular.
I think it's wrong. Basketball players have it written in their contracts, and the worst part is Colin Kapernick is half white, adopted and raised by white parents. I don't think it is right because like Mandi said he is paid millions upon millions of dollars to frolic on a field in tight pants smacking other dudes on their asses for a few hours. There are people who would KILL to make that kind of money and I think that if you can't stand for a few minutes to represent our country as one, then he can find another job. This is tearing our country apart, racism and I think that it's not that hard to stand. It's sad that black people are calling white people racist, but white people are labeled racists just because. And the black lives matter movement is just an excuse for rioting and killings. When a Black man is killed, it's blown up, and everyone is losing their heads, but a white police officer is killed, who cares? That's part of the job. The most common cause of black people death is by another black man. That's all I have to say. I'm not really up for debate.
Can someone please for the love of god explain to me how his income/career is at all relative to his personal beliefs? Because you all seem to think he owes the government love because of his wealth and I'm not seeing the connection here
@🐫👑MirandaIsAware👑🐫 He is being paid millions of dollars to run around and play a game. Lots of people would love to do that, as Cassie said. Many, many people would love to be in his shoes. He is supposed to be drawing positive attention not controversial issues, this is making an impact on young people. So it isn't as much his salary, but his fame and his position in society and his influence on young audiences, that makes this uncalled for. That's where my point comes in, how he could make his point in a less controversial way.
@🌸Miss_Mandi_Mae🌸 Okay so the income thing and whether or not his job is easy thing is irrelevant. The real argument here is that since so many people are watching him he needs to be a good example for the general public. That I can agree with. But isn't he doing that by using his fame to express something he believes in? To hopefully, in his eyes, draw attention to an issue and maybe even save lives as a result? Is there a better use of his fame than that? Nope. That's setting an example for young people to stand up (ha irony). That's using your privilege to help those who aren't as well off.
@🐫👑MirandaIsAware👑🐫 I understand that. I am just saying that young kids are leading from watching someone who is supposed to be a role model. He isn't setting a good example and many people disagree with his actions, which isn't what kids, or young people for that matter, need to be watching and seeing as okay. Especially since several others have been taught otherwise.
And you're playing that off as nothing saying its "not that hard to stand" yet you can't tolerate people saying white people are racist. Like black peoples being shot is fine but white people being called racist is horrible
But police are being targeted because of their career. This country would be chaos without the police and advocates of this cause seem to clash with the police. But who protects them when they are in danger? Police. Your point works for both sides, so therefor is invalid.
@🌸Miss_Mandi_Mae🌸 Just because he thinks black lives matter doesn't mean he believes police lives don't.
For example, when the whole black power movement started there were some people who were more violent (like Malcolm X before he went on a religious pilgrimage) and people who were nonviolent (MLK Jr duh). They were part of the same movement but had different ideas of how to achieve that goal.
Just because MLK Jr was part of the black power movement doesn't mean he supported violence against whites.
Just because this football player is part of the black lives matter movement doesn't mean he supports violence against police
@🐫👑MirandaIsAware👑🐫 that's not what I am saying. There is a better way to advocate it, and for the cause itself to be less violent and chaotic. It also seems that quite a few black lives matter supporters are against police, and are willing to hurt them, or people are inspired to hurt police because of black lives matter.
@🐫👑MirandaIsAware👑🐫 I am not saying there haven't been peaceful protestors in the past. There have been and that is the reason why America has equality. Peaceful protestors advocated for woman, blacks and we are starting to see more rights for LBGT as well. But rioting and violence isn't going to get them anywhere. There have been cases of "police brutality" where the suspect was resisting arrest, and a police officer is fearing for his life, he or she must protect themselves and other people. Put yourself in their shoes. What would you do?